Barack Obama and Donald Trump were spotted chatting at Jimmy Carter's funeral.
— Sky News (@SkyNews) January 9, 2025
Here's what a lip reader could make of their conversation – do you agree? 💬🗨 pic.twitter.com/1uz014XNYX
NEW: Trump told Obama he had to find a quiet place to speak with him regarding an urgent “matter of importance,” according to the New York Post.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 9, 2025
The revelation was made by forensic lip reader Jeremy Freeman.
Trump: “I’ve pulled out of that. It’s the conditions. Can you imagine… pic.twitter.com/BxSrm8XLBH
NEW YORK POST
WASHINGTON — Former President Barack Obama and President-elect Donald Trump had what appeared to be a warm conversation Thursday ahead of former President Jimmy Carter’s funeral, but a professional lip reader told The Post their smiles and laughter belied more serious substance.
Trump, 78, possibly wary of cameras facing the pair as they sat shoulder to shoulder, cautioned Obama, 63, that they would have to “find a quiet place” later in the day to discuss a “matter of importance,” according to forensic lip reader Jeremy Freeman.
It’s unclear what precisely that conversation would entail, but Freeman’s translation indicated that Obama and Trump may have been discussing international agreements.
At one point, Trump leaned toward Obama and said, “I’ve pulled out of that. It’s the conditions. Can you imagine that?”
Trump withdrew from Obama’s 2015 Iran nuclear deal and the 2016 Paris Climate Agreement in his first term, though it’s unclear if those pacts were what was being discussed.
Obama laughed as Trump added, “and after, I will,” before the pooled TV camera feed cut away from the men, who were bracketed by former first lady Laura Bush and Trump’s wife Melania.
“Call me at the foy after, yep,” Trump replied to Obama during their exchange, possibly referring to the National Cathedral’s foyer.
Obama then said, “can you just … it should be good.”
“I can’t talk, we have to find a quiet place sometime. This is a matter of importance and we need to do this outside so that we can deal with it, certainly, today,” Trump said, as Obama nodded.
The lip reader also interpreted Obama as saying “listen to me, it’s a chore, a chore” — though the context didn’t make clear what he was referencing — and Trump replying, “Yeah, right. I can’t think of anything that’s a chore.”
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